Once you do so. You will find that this is exactly where the problem originates. I mean besides humanities curiosity! In other words divination. Since I'm sure you already know that you won't find the term numerology itself in scripture. You must also know that the word "divination" is there.
A little research in scripture with this will most assuredly show you that this not a subject area that is condoned in Scripture or taken lightly by God. As intriguing as the subject may appear, which is just like the Adversary to make things he would like people to enmesh themselves with.
Which is why many give it a Christian or Jewish twist and the masses get drawn in like a moth to the light. My suggestion to you is to stay far, far away from it. With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Hi Nick! Thanks so much for the quick response. Well the Numerology i'm mentioning is where numbers play a significant importance - as per the examples of the bible where certain numbers had meaning, relevance. We know 7, 8, 40, etc all have meanings.
I suppose what i'm trying to understand right now, is whether numerology is something completely under mysticism or if it can stand up outside those realms as being a study of numbers, and letters having value? When you do some more research and understand the Fibonacci golden ratio, you see this sequence repeated in nature over and over, some people have called it the God thumbprint, God stamp, all notable, but its numerology from the perspective a repeated configuration shown up in nature.
It's not to be dismissed the mysteries and yet evidences of God. Like everything, its been so heavily entangled with the occult and hence we arrive at the nebulous confusion of my question. Can we say, our God is slight, and unintentional when clearly we see he is a master architect and meticulous with everything he does? Even with numbers I'm rambling, yeah, my two cents.
Greetings, from Scripture concerning what Nick wrote about above When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord.
And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. First, remember that the men who 'discovered' these principals only 'discovered' some aspects that prove to the inquiring mind that the LORD made all things AND that while one might get fascinated by the study of the mathematical sequencing or the patterns that unfold, such study is only an attempt to put down 'on paper' the wonderful design of God in all that He has made and that it is Him alone Who we should be in awe of.
Yes, by all means we can be in awe of Him as we see patterns around us in creation but we must avoid going after teachings and religions that manipulate the minds of men to their advantage using the fascinating with a lie here and and a lie there sprinkled in.
Another point to remember is that no amount of numerology or pattern mathematics will add one drop to the finished work of Christ Jesus the Son of God Who loved us and gave himself for us. The 'practice' of numerology quickly becomes a poison to the soul as one who practices it oozes deeper and deeper into a mystical outlook towards God and the Scripture, becoming superstitious and fearful, summarizing everything with numbers and symbolisms.
While creation declares the wonder of God, it is always God Who we should be in wonder of, not His Creation. Likewise, although there appears to be remarkable patterns in Scripture, we can easily get lost in looking to and for these patters instead of seeking the Lord to reveal Himself to us in and through Scripture. We can miss the words as we look for the numbers. We can understand the Scripture without numerology and numerology will not add to the Gospel truth of Christ's death and resurrection nor the need for all men to repent and believe Him for what He has said, not for the numbers we might find.
Bless you Melissa Chan said:. It depends on how one uses it. Astronomers have studied the stars for years. Navigators use them for points of reference. Astrologers have also studied the stars for years, but for the purpose of determining life decisions.
If one uses numbers to determine what lies ahead for the future, is it for reference or lifestyle? It's true the Bible does use numbers for illustration, but I do not believe they are meant to make determinations of whether you should eat fried eggs or boiled eggs, or whether you will have a large family or none at all.
Christ4Ever said:. I understand what you're trying to say. The observation I can point out is that we in attempting to codify Scripture or Creation we wind up back to words in explaining what is found. I find that a bit ironic to say the least when we already have His Word Man's attempts to utilize what God has provided in order to seek a greater mystery outside of what God has already provided us, points to what Brother Bear has talked of.
Rather, divination and the like, which numerology falls under because it is predictive in nature, is repeatedly condemned throughout the Bible. Many Christians think the act of looking at astrological charts, turning to mediums for guidance, and the like are just harmless forms of entertainment. The Israelites often made the same mistake and turned from God, although God clearly warned them about this.
Deuteronomy says: "When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.
You must be blameless before the Lord your God. The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the Lord your God has not permitted you to do so. These verses are given to us as warnings. God wants us to learn from the examples He gives in the Bible, and to avoid making the same mistakes. Turning to numerology makes us forget the true power that God has over our lives.
He already knows what great things are in our future, and we should be relying on Him for guidance rather than numbers.
Therefore the people wander like sheep oppressed for lack of a shepherd. Numbers in the Bible can often be taken literally, but they are sometimes used as symbols. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. Jhn And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. Thanks for the responses , WE surely must pray for others to not be led astray by such junk , it is of the utmost importance to read the Bible and be knowledgeable of it to share the real truth with others.
Thank you Mr. No, this does not mean people are only allowed sins to be forgiven, otherwise WE could be in big trouble. Most Bible scholars see this as a symbol that we must always forgive each and every time and that number is infinite as God forgives us an infinite number of sins. Love it Nicholas. What happens when some cults pull one text out the take a text out of context and make it a pretext and a false one at that.
Let Scripture interpret Scripture is a good rule. Love the idea of that pastor. Hi Jack Wellman, You are a genius because i read many numerology but your writing is some different then others. I enjoyed very much and learn many new things from your article. Thanks a lot. Thank you so much for your very kind words Susan. I know nothing that was not given to me so all glory goes to the Lord God.
I am a born again believer of Jesus Christ and would like to know what you have to say about what is talked about in this forum on bible numerology. Thank you Matt for your comment. For one thing, this guy was banned from the website so he was not apparently playing by the rules. It is baseless and without any truth and why do we need to believe in math to believe that God is Creator?
I would stay away from that or any website like it and stay in the Word of God and in church and listen to Christ-centered messages and Sunday school teachers where you will REALLY learn about God and creation. Indeed Jack…snipers will often go on sites where the Word is prominent…. That scriptural response most likely will not convince those who are serving another god BUT it will demonstrate the wisdom in how GOD gives and answer to those who have ears to hear and have applied themselves to learn what the scriptures will say in response to such things.
Mar And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. Acts Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience. I am not he. But, behold, there cometh one after me, whose shoes of his feet I am not worthy to loose. Come Lord Jesus! Amen Kris. May God richly bless you both and thank you and I thank God for you both.
It should be …. I actually left a reply to Gold today…. Thanks Kris. I apologized for misunderstanding what she was actually saying…not for anything else in particular. I would rather win a friend than win an argument, not that we were arguing. I know what you mean…. Yes…good to hear you say it…. James 1…tells it like it is …. Nicholas, you are so right sir. I wrote an article some time ago exposing the History Channel in their slanted, biased, and misrepresentation of the facts as most of the media is anti-Christian and many are deceptive in their programs because Satan being behind it wants to discredit God because He hates Him.
I know what you mean about T. I was watching the History channel and they had a program that talked about Jesus and his followers, and they were speculating what had been said by Jesus and the others. It sort of made me mad. I said that if God wanted us to know that information, we would!!!! The word is living …and powerful.. It is where the WORD is to reside as we are guided in our choices by thoughts …thus the Holy Spirit enters into our mind by words…and we then are led by heeding what comes up from the Word to guide us along …how to make choices.
The World knows not Christ …and Satan works through those who are led away by their lust and greed …They distribute his filthy deceptions …Those who come to Christ and learn of Him begin to see all things as God will reveal them as they submit to GOD …they are then equipped by His Word to RESIST the devil and he will flee …for a time.
The curriculums of the devil is still flooding the earth and will until the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints. No wonder the devil hates the Bible …and seeks to twist it and discredit it.. Nicholas, I covet such men of God that stand on the truth so firmly as you in the church that I am under-shepherd of and I thank God for you brother.
Thank you for the reply my brother. I appreciate you taking the time. So I say we do mind these atheists, find out what they believe in because they do have faith and belief in what they think is right whether they admit it or not , so we can come back with the truth in a way that is most effective. We need to try and save everyone athiest or not, definitely not ignore them and their beliefs but know whats true and do our best to be the light they need in their lives by listening and caring.
Jesus bless you all, goodnight. Thanks Matt. I am just thanking God for you my friend that there are still faithful Christians who are willing to give a reason for the hope that is within them.
Well done and may God richly bless your labor for the Lord in the field of harvest. A few years ago my mother and I were driving home from visiting my brother.
It was early evening and the sun was setting. Not a wispy like 7 you get from a cloud forming it, but a solid 7. This was a solid shape at the bottom but faded nearer to the top till invisible. Nor have we been able to find anyone who could even try to explain it to us. So I was just wondering if you have any thoughts on this? I know that the number 7 is a number of completion and that is why there are seven days in a week but what you saw is impossible for me to say, as I could not possibly know with certainty what this would mean.
You are not bothering me by the way. That is why I am here. I wish I could help you but God speaks to us most clearly in the Bible and that is all I can say. I am sorry to disappoint you. Perhaps, in time, this will be made more clear to you and your mother.
Thank you for all the comments. I was also tempted to read this numerology. Iam going through a fee difficult hurdles but first had to check if it is biblical as i felt uneasy about it. I shall stay away from it. Pastor Jack Wellman i would like to ask you a few questions perhaps via email. Hello Precious. Your explanation and discussion was very thorough and informative. This is a subject that has become of Interest to me. Even now having graduated from college with a degree in Biblical studies and an M, Div.
I am interested in a better understanding of the possible significance of numbers and their relationship to the Bible or how I may better understand the meaning of numbers in relation the Bible and to us. I am presently ministering as a Chaplain inside of a Texas State Penitentiary and I have been hearing pastors Perry Stone, Jonathan Cahn just to name a couple in very recent years using numbers or numerology as part of their ministry tools.
I am still a little leery because of my lack of exposure to this. There appears to be validity but I remain sceptical do to my own ignorance and lack of knowledge. I desire a deeper understanding and better knowledge of this subjuct. Hello Christopher. Thank you sir for your comments. Stone and Mr. Cahn are false teachers. Sir, please tell me if these number 1yi 10 are personal interpretation or personal revelation or does the Bible specifically say that the number 1 represents unity and 3 the trinity?
Like when God gave the specific measurements for the temple or is it some preachers or Christians revelation of their understanding of the Bible Thsnk tou. Hello Prem. I am not sure what you are asking. Number 1 is not so much mentioned in Scripture as 3, 6, 7, 10, and 12 are. The Bible is always true. Human revelations are not so. Just needing to ask a question. The original text?
This is not to sound disrespectful or anything. TY for any help. Hello Danita. They only find better manuscripts that help establish that this is indeed the Word of God.
The originals are not available, but we have the best copies of the originals, and these are copied within only a few years. Please read this my friend and see why you can trust the Bible. I have a question! Are they predicting future? Is it just being used as a code for communication? Hello Charlie. Testing the spirits is about false biblical teaching and not about numerology which is not biblical. I suggest avoid such satanic things. Thank you Gold. I apologize for my misunderstanding.
May God lead and direct you in your walk with Him, wherever that takes you my friend. I cannot find the post to which you are addressing your apology and wondered what it is that you are apologizing for? Would you mind directing me to that post? Thanks …keep up the good work! Kris, it is at the top of the comments on this page…. I am not sure why my comment ended up way down at the bottom???
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What Is Numerology? Is It Biblical? Seven is symbolic of a totality of perfection or completeness …. Peace and Love Dereck Reply. Hi Jack, It does clear things up and I will act accordingly.
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